Keller @ Large: This Dumpster Fire Can’t End Soon Enough

BOSTON (CBS) – In a way, Donald Trump had a good night Sunday night.

He was much more on his game than in the first debate, hitting on his litany of criticisms of Hillary Clinton and his favorite crowd-pleasing lines from all those rallies. And the crowd that has rallied around him were surely thrilled with his relentless finger-pointing indictments, mixed with the occasional attack on the moderators.

Read: Voters Call Debate ‘Cringe Worthy’

By contrast, Clinton – beyond a few sharp elbows thrown at Trump’s greatest misfires – was mostly playing rope-a-dope, letting him bluster and ignore the questions from citizens and moderators while she stuck to her script and the issues. After seeming a little rattled by the intensity of his attack early on, she stayed calm and was overall noticeably less aggressive than in the first debate.

So where does this leave the race?

For the historically large numbers of voters who are telling pollsters they can’t stand Trump, his performance likely reaffirmed their doubts. It’s risky to sneer, interrupt, point an accusing finger, and denigrate someone as consistently and rudely as Trump did.

Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton on stage during their second debate Sunday, Oct. 9, 2016. (Christian Gooden/St. Louis Post-Dispatch/TNS via Getty Images)

Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton on stage during their second debate Sunday, Oct. 9, 2016. (Christian Gooden/St. Louis Post-Dispatch/TNS via Getty Images)

For the almost-as-large number of voters who can’t stand Clinton, there also seemed to be little on display to change their minds. She was not successful in concealing her contempt for him and his tactics.

And what about the voters that really matter, the undecideds who will likely make the call next month?

Your guess is as good as mine, but mine is that they were unmoved. If they were turned off by the candidates or politics in general before Sunday night, they’re still that way today.

And I’m left with this overwhelming thought – this unpleasant, unedifying dumpster fire of a campaign can’t end soon enough.

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One Comment

  1. mstarvin says:

    The most truthful statement Jon made was here: “And I’m left”. Yes you are Jon…yes you are.

  2. mikey says:

    A deplorable reality show. “We the people” are in deep… trouble.

    1. TheEndofDignity says:

      “We the People” are responsible for this shìt show. We chose these candidates. And Trump in particular, is a product of years of progressive liberal bullshît and increasingly insidious political correctness. If the left were more tolerant of those who disagree with them, if Obama enforced existing laws on immigration and promoted America instead of globalism, then Trump wouldn’t have the appeal the he does. And Clinton just belongs in jail.


    1. Cicero says:

      Keep at it, Jordan. I’m confident that you’ll eventually find the right dosages and maybe even be able to go out unaccompanied for short trips..

    2. Donald J Trump says:

      You tell hi, jew lawyer

  4. paul dowd says:

    A few people will still vote for Trump. These voters must forget that they have or had a mother. They don’t care about their sisters or daughters. To these Trump supporters women are just pieces of meat for some creepy old man to lear at or grab. How are they going to explain to a bright young woman that her only worth is what she looks like or feels like to some sick old creep?

    1. mstarvin says:

      OK Mr. hypocrite how does someone like you you overlook Hillary and Bill’s antics? He didn’t just talk about women poorly he raped and sexually assaulted them. His wife then destroyed these women. So if we want to follow your theories how would one vote for Hillary knowing this?

    2. TheEndofDignity says:

      Words. Sticks and stones. You’re either naive or a millennial being triggered. It’s easier to explain Trump’s vulgarity than explain to my daughter why Hillary Clinton enabled years of her husband fücking the interns in the White House and getting blow jobs in the Oval Office.

  5. Eric Wieland says:

    There are other candidates. Unfortunately the mainstream media doesn’t even mention Gary Johnson.

    1. Sy Clops says:

      Sure they do. How is it that we know about his “Aleppo moment”? How is it that we know (or care) what foreign leaders he “respects” (or can even name)?

  6. paul dowd says:

    Bill Clinton isn’t running for president. He is ineligible to become president because he has already served 8 years as president. He has been accused of rape and assault but none of the accusations were ever proven. Trump is running for president. He has been accused of rape and assaulting women. None of the accusations have been proven but he has bragged about how he assaults women. I would not want this creep anywhere near any of the many wonderful women in my life nor would I want this serial criminal (sexual assault is a crime) anywhere near the White House. I don’t know how this makes me a hypocrite but I will put this question to you. Would you thrust this admitted sexual predator alone with your wife or daughter or sister?

    1. The Owl says:

      Enough has been admitted, Rowdy, for it to be not a far step from conviction in a court of law.

      Remember, he’s had to pay out hundreds of thousands of dollars and lost his law license for being less-than-truthful under oath which, it just happens, is the classic, legal definition of “perjury”.

      1. bees_knees_6 says:

        You missed the first sentence. Let me repeat. Bill Clinton is not running for president.

        Also, I am surprised by you who has repeatedly pointed out that we have constitutional law and that it has to be followed. Close enough to be a conviction? Really?

        As far as your 10:18 post….agreed and well written. We have some ‘splain’ to do, Lucy. I switch from conservative to liberal blogs and they all make me sick. We have created this partisan mess. We are so busy trying to prove one side is all right and one side is all wrong that we have lost complete sight of the problem.

  7. TheOwl says:

    I would hope that you wouldn’t want Hillary’s husband, Bill Clinton, near any one of the wonderful women who work in the White House, in our government, and for the many nations around the world where he might travel as First Pervert.

    That could cause real problems for our governance and our international relations.

    1. paul dowd says:

      Bill will never be president again. Trump will never be president either. I know that, you know that and Donald Trump knows that too. When Bill is first gentleman I hope they keep an eye on him.

      1. TheOwl says:

        Do you really expect Bill to be in the White House’s private quarters kitchen baking cookies?

        You are daft, really daft.

      2. TheEndofDignity says:

        “first gentleman” You and your kind are total hypocrites. You express outraged self-righteous indignation at Trump’s words yet choose to overlook Hillary’s enablement of her predator husband’s actions and her own criminal actions. Typical liberal hypocrite.

      3. bees_knees_6 says:

        EndOfDignity. I understand why you support Trump. You are a misogynist……how interesting that you feel it is Hillary’s fault that Bill cheated on her. You certainly are the End of Dignity.

  8. TheOwl says:

    Last week’s events and revelations have left me totally disgusted with both Hillary and Donand. Far more disgusted than I have ever been in matters political.

    I have come to the following conclusions:

    1. Both candidates of the major parties are qualified to stand for election. The Constitution of the United States says they are.

    2. Neither candidate, for separate reasons are acceptable to serve in the office.

    3. The two major parties need to stand tall and ask their candidate to stan aside in favor of another, more in-tune candidate.

    4. The political parties should cease to exist…outlawed if you will…and the task of nominating candidates for the office of President of the United State should be vested in delegates elected by the legislatures of the Sovereign State to a convention for the purpose of nomination.

    5. Potential candidates should be barred from participating in the selection of nomination delegates and should be barred from personally campaigning for office.

    Many say our democracy is broken. No, it is not.

    It has been betrayed, however, by the flawed system of nominating and campaigning that has evolved over the past 60 or so years.

    Our candidates are no longer “presidential timber” and statesmen that know their ways through the rough-and-tumble of governance.


    Note: I posted a version of this yesterday on Liz Spayd’s Public Editor column in the Sunday NY Times. I have added the short preamble.

  9. kek says:

    Hillary was was exposed as a liar, incompetent, rape enabling crook last tonight.

    1. Donald J Trump says:

      Is that why she is beating me in every poll now? She grabbed my pus sy!

  10. Lawin says:

    Great assessment, Mr. Keller. I think I dislike Trump so much that I can’t see what is “good” about him or his campaign. As a woman and a mother of girls, there’s just nothing I can find redeeming in him. Nothing. He makes me sick and yet people cheer him on. It blows my mind.

    The trouble is that Hillary has all this very public baggage. She’s so smart and qualified but when she stays to script people can’t relate and then think she can’t be trusted.

    It will be interesting to see if there are record numbers of voters or if people are so disgusted that they’ll just give up.

    At then end of the day, he just really can’t become president. He can’t…..

  11. Reimann says:

    Cant wait for Nov 8 and get this behind us. Looking back at 2012, what a stark contrast!! I didn’t agree with Obama or Romney on everything but that was a healthy contest. I wish Romney was around this time and he could have easily won. If Hillary wins that is only because Republicans have fielded the worst candidate possible (OK may be other than Sarah Palin) and if Trump wins again that will be because Dems have someone who doesn’t know how to tell truth and thinks she and her family can get away with anything. Is there one more of this debate?

    1. Sy Clops says:

      I half agree with you. Mitt Romney would probably have won this election easily. The Mitt Romney who was governor of Massachusetts would probably have beaten Obama in 2012. But Romney sold his soul to the Republican right (what used to be the Republican religious right and slowly grew to encompass the whacko right), and was never able to reclaim it.

      Are Trump and Sarah Palin the only “worst” candidates that could have been fielded against Hillary? Probably not. I’ll bet that if the Republican nominee were Cruz, Pence, Santorum, Gingrich, Rubio, Carson, and a host of others, we’d still be saying how Hillary lucked out on the Republican choice. There were, however, many potential Republican candidates who could have provided a real challenge.

      1. bees_knees_6 says:

        Excellent comment, Sy. Romney had my vote for governor of MA and would have had it (and many other moderate’s) had he not sold his soul.

  12. drwatson says:

    In 90 minutes Trump did what the Republicans have failed to do in 30 Years. Destroy the corrupt lying Clinton Machine.

    1. mstarvin says:

      He certainly exposed her as an untrustable, lying, harpy but I don’t think those who would consider voting for her care….. Although to be fair those who would vote for Trump don’t care about his rude comments about women either… He did make her look foolish though which so far has been very hard to do,

  13. mstarvin says:

    The Abe Lincoln retort and the “You’d be in jail!” comment will go down in history as the best one liners in a debate….ever!!!

    1. Donald J Trump says:

      Nah, that would be “Grab em in the Pus sy” its what I did to your mom as your dad watched and did nothing.

      1. mstarvin says:

        You must be a necrophiliac troll as my parents died back in the 1970s…

  14. mikey says:

    Dr. Phil should have been the moderator. They both need serious help.

  15. frappe123 says:

    Mr. Keller, you recently reported on a survey that measured the percentage of “Pants on Fire” lies that both Trump and Clinton were guilty of. You said that Hillary Clinton’s was calculated to be 25% of her lies and Donald Dumpster’s at 75% of his, and then you treated both as though they were equally bad! That’s outrageous! Trump Lies register a 10 on the richter scale compared to Clinton’s 3. There’s no equivalence there so please REFRAIN from treating Hillary as though she’s just as bad as the lie-infested Trumpster Dumpster! He is a lying machine gone berserk!

    1. mstarvin says:

      Oh please Hillary hasn’t spoken a true word in her life. You can even spell her name with LIAR.

  16. Concerned American says:

    Trump is so done, the conservatards are crying like a symphony.

  17. hammerhead says:

    Mitt decided to play nice when he ran against the emperor hopefully Mr Trump will continue to attack instead of playing nice Hillary has so many skeletons in her closet its time to bring them out!

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