Salem Hockey Mom Not Giving Up Fight Against Youth League

February 24, 2012 5:57 PM

Holly Foglietta

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SALEM (CBS) – Her nine-year-old twin sons were kicked out of a youth hockey league after she complained about the coach. She broke her silence about the situation to WBZ.

Painted by her detractors as an over-the-top hockey mom, Holly Foglietta watched her twins unpack their gear Friday, not surprised the league had upheld the boys dismissal from Lynn Youth Hockey.

“I never swore at anybody, threatened anybody, I only came to the board with a complaint,” says Foglietta.”The only reason people have come to my side is because they are scared their kids will get retaliated against.”

WBZ-TV’s Ken MacLeod reports

Last month, son Austin says his coach angrily rebuked him for being selfish when he scored his 200th goal and tried to keep the puck. Brother William says the coach then tossed a bag of pucks at him in the locker room. Volunteer squirt coach William Norcross says neither happened.

Things really blew up when Holly asserted to the league in an e-mail and on Facebook that the actions of her sons’ coach amounted to “borderline child abuse”.

“I would say it again,” Foglietta told WBZ. “I didn’t charge him with child abuse, I just wanted his behavior addressed.”

The comment, however, got the twins bounced from the Lynn Comets when the league declared the accusation overboard, if not defamatory.

While supporters say she’s merely a spirited supporter of her sons’ teams, critics contend she’s a big mouthed meddler. Either way, Holly Foglietta wonders how it became about her, when it should have been about her sons.

She plans to appeal her boys’ plight to Mass. Hockey, insisting the move is needed to keep leagues from whitewashing future child complaints.

WBZ NewsRadio 1030′s Rod Fritz reports

“I was just their voice,” she says. “I went to the board with their voice.”

The twins have already agreed to play hockey with a team elsewhere next year.

Salem Hockey Mom Not Giving Up Fight Against Youth League

andyme

I think tracking the number of goals for as nine year is over the top, my guess is the parents are over the top. However, LYH penalizing the kids is way too much. When I coached youth hockey I never gave out hat trick patches, show me the defensemen or goalie who has a chance in scoring three goals. It’s about having fun, with winning being a secondary goal.

gramps

andyme, FYI:

As a very young lad, Bobby Orr’s coach moved him from a wing to defense….In order for him to utilize his talents?

Orr’s father ‘Doug’ didn’t agree with the move!….Yet he respected the game & coach!

Bobby Orr displayed his hockey talents from an early age. Orr played his first organized hockey in 1953 at age five, in the “minor squirt” division, a year after getting his first skates and playing shinny. Although he was tiny and somewhat frail, he soon was able to skate faster than anyone his own age, speed he demonstrated in races around the rink and in games. Until he was ten years old, Orr played on the wing, as a forward. His coach, former NHL player Bucko McDonald moved Orr to defense. Although Orr played defense, McDonald encouraged Orr to use his talents as a stick handler, a natural skater and scorer to make offensive rushes. According to McDonald: “I used to tell Doug the kid was in his natural position when he played defense. You didn’t have to be genius to see that – honest. I don’t think Doug agreed, but he accepted my decision.” Orr would later credit McDonald: “Bucko taught me almost everything I know.”

The rest is history!

I’d say Bill Norcross in good company & is a ‘keeper’!

gramps

Shane Walsh

No 9 year should even know have many goals he has scored so his parents must be keeping track no telling the kids and that is really sad. It is a team sport not about one or two players. The league should keep the kids teach them sportsmanship and respect for the TEAM sport and kick the parents out!

gramps

How many more miles/HRS will ‘big mouth Holly’ have to travel now in order for her to continue her career as a ‘hockey mum’?

Who’d take her?….& why?

‘Holly’, created this mess, yet she ‘slimed out’ & abandoned her Husband & ‘Boys’ by ‘not’ even attending the hearing….To defend her position!

Sez allot….

gramps…….PS

She’s ‘clueless & LEAGUE-LESS’!

Willow

The mother doesn’t seem to get it. When she chose to use the words, “borderline child abuse,” that changed the entire tone of her complaint. Those are serious charges. I also find it hard to believe the boys were suspended because of something their mother did. There has to be a good reason why this happened.

gramps

She’s a ‘REDHEAD’!

gramps

dan

bottled redhead

donny

The biggest problem with youth sports… is adults!
LYH

WBZ should do their ‘Homework” before showcasing poor Mommy Foggs as an innocent Hockey Mom… Check her history of controversy !!

dan

yeah…mommy fogggggggsssss loves controversy…some people get off on that..makes them strong and in the limelight
blackbear1

Yes LYH, that was very poor reporting on the part of WBZ.

dan

the picture looks like she just got out of a meth clinic

Dave_D

A little heavy on the mascara, I’d say.

Nab71

“Foglietta wonders how it became about her, when it should have been about her sons” That statement describes the entire problem. Instead of the games being about fun and the team, it was all about HER sons. A selfish mother is going to raise two very selfish sons. Follow up in ten years.

gramps

Only time will tell as to whether or not the kids are ‘bullies in training’, one only has to look towards the example being set for them…..

gramps

sloopjohnB2

Hey Mom, how about addressing YOUR behavior. Get back on your meds.

dan

yeah,sloop no kidding..MEDS..SHE DID NOT EVEN ATTEND THE MEETING .these are the people that start trouble then sit back and watch the dirty work..good luck hubby

blackbear1

Where is the husband/father? Is there no positive male role model for these kds? Also do some research and check out her lawyer. Wow! Unfortunately, LYH will probably need an exorcism to get rid of this woman. Some people can really create and generate trouble.
My very best to the city of Lynn and LYH.

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jaygee

I have a strong feeling that there won’t be many, if any, coaches who will want either of these kids on their team. Who would want to deal with these two, not the kids, the parents? I would also love to have someone inform me as to how a 9 year old could score 200 goals. I mean, are their goalies in the net?

J York

Are you kidding? Who wouldn’t want a 200 goal phenom on the team?

dan

THAT IS WHAT I AM TELLING YOU PEOPLE… THEY THRIVE ON THIS..THEY LOVE IT ..LIKE THE GUY IN MARBLEHEAD WITH THE MILLION DOLLAR DREAM HOME…THESE PEOPLE KEPT HIM IN COURT FOR 17 YRS..THEY LOVE IT…IT’S THEIR LIFE
Pepsi

Here it the TRUTH:

FACT 1
Austin is pictured in the newspaper holding his 200 th puck. No time prior does Holly state this is not the real puck. So she can’t pull a fast on us now.
Austin has the puck, therefore it was never taken from him

FACT 2
Bill Fog’s original statement was that he went to the game the very next day (Sunday ) after the alledged incident to talk to Coach Norcross

Bill Fog then on 2/24/12 makes another statement and says he went to the game the next day because Coach Cassidy said he did not expect coach Norcross to be there.

Which is it Bill Fog, why did you take the twins to the game next day? I will tell you why. Coach Norcross did not take the puck from Austin, or yelled at him or threw a puck bag at William,. That is exactly why you took the twins the next day

FACT 3 – THIS IS A GOOD ONE

RICKY MAYNE – The Fogs FAVORITE ALL TIME COACH he is NOT CERTIFIED. SHOCKER !!!! He has never been certified NOR has he taken his on line Module Classes. Coach Norcross was certified, his certification expired in Dec 2011. He also took his online Module Classes for this hockey year. This was quite an issue with Holly. I wonder how she will find her way out of this one for her boy Ricky.

FACT 4 – Oh mama
The twins team mate was voted MVP during the playoffs last year. This is voted by the VALLEY LEAGUE and NOT LYH. Upon Holly looking on LYH website Holly does not see her sons name. She calls up the Valley League (NO LIE) tells them the teammate voted MVP does not deserve it over her son. ( Real Classy Move, huh ?) She then proceeds to give her sons STATS: GOALS, ASSIST, TIME ON THE ICE, etc… the guy on the other end tired of listening to her talking (COMPLAINING) puts her son’s name as CO-MVP just to get off the phone with her. ( NO LIE )

” We find that as soon as people feel that their self esteem is threatend, they immediately begin to lie at higher levels, They lie to boost themselves up, in, others eyes or their eyes”. R. Feldman / U of MASS

All above is the truth and factual

dan

how would you like to be married to this woman..and i use the term loosely

dan

IAM GOING TO SAY IT ONE MORE TIME……THESE PEOPLE LOVE TROUBLE..THEY THRIVE ON IT…SHE STILL LOOKS LIKE SHE JUST GOT OUT OF A METH CLINC
Linder

Dan, you and few other sound pretty immature and childish. How wuold any one like to be married to guy who spemds his time degrading a mom for protecting and defending her boys,…and your remarks are quite stupid about the hair- bottled redhead,mascara, meth clinic mentioned2X. Id be careful what you accuse someone of..which has NOTHING to do with what happened.

Sounds like the coach did lose his temper at the boy. The brother repeated something in his defense that according to the unwitten oath of loyalty to the team and coach , he shouldnt have said. Sounds to me like he was borderline abusive. These are kids and its only a sport and game. I would have complained pretty loudly as well. .And here is a perfect example of Bullying by a sports authority. If this all didnt happen why take it out on the kids???

dan

linder..i do not see you repling to peps’s fact 1..fact 2 .. fact 3 .. and fact 4…maybe you do not have comeback???

dan

LINDER YOU SEEM TO HAVE ALL THE FACTS ..YOU MUST OF BEEN THIER

Linder

Try,..you must HAVE been THERE.

Linder

Dan,.. your childish personal attacks on the mother has not a thing to do with her verbally defending her kids. Your commenting says more for your age and immaturity then your intelligence.

These kids should not be thrown off the team. If they did have any minor behavioral problems or bad habits then the coach needed to work with the kids. That is what good dedicated coaches do. COACH! Its how you instill and build confidence and character. Not throw then off the team, primarily because you dislike the mother. I personally would get me a lawyer.

rogerrabbit

Linder, actually I would like to see you or anyone else put yourself on the line when parents accuse one of torture, child abuse and threats of taking their kid out of the program because he is playing defense. Do you keep the kids on the team so next time the coach plays the 9 year old on defense the mother accuses the coach of some other type of abuse were the coach, his family and job are on the line. Dan, is 100% correct on his facts, statements on this parent and anyone associated with the ciy of Lynn (where she is from originally) knows her character and what she has done in the past with others.

dan

thank you ….rogerrabbit. at least someone knows what is going on..i am from lynn and i know whats going on..DO NOT KNOW WHERE LINDER IS FROM??????
dan

and again how does a 9 yr old score 200 goles
rogerrabbit

Dan, that is also a lie. He has no “200″ goals. The coach who had him for 1 1/2 years went through the scorers sheets and has the kid down for 42 goals total. The year before coming to the program in Lynn he scorer 18 goals and the year before he was 6 years of age playing against 8 year olds so how many goals did he have then. They counted 4 year old learn to skate and whack a puck goals at 4 and 5 which is not a league it’s like playing in your yard with an open net.
Linder

Rogerrabbit said,…Dan, is 100% correct on his facts, statements on this parent and anyone associated with the ciy of Lynn (where she is from originally) knows her character and what she has done in the past with others.

This is what Rogerrabbit said Dan is 100% correct on his facts,…

Dan, …said
1. SHE STILL LOOKS LIKE SHE JUST GOT OUT OF A METH CLINC

2. how would you like to be married to this woman..and i use the term loosely

3. THAT IS WHAT I AM TELLING YOU PEOPLE… THEY THRIVE ON THIS

4. yeah,sloop no kidding..MEDS..SHE DID NOT EVEN ATTEND THE MEETING .these are the people that start trouble then sit back and watch the dirty work..good luck hubby

5. the picture looks like she just got out of a meth clinic
6. yeah…mommy fogggggggsssss loves controversy

7. bottled redhead

I rest my case on Dan’s stupid remarks, …

Donny said,..

The biggest problem with youth sports… is adults!

you are 100% correct. I do agree and that means on both sides of the fence.

Which ever way it really is, even if it a misguided mom, the Coaches are the professionals, the kids should be worked with and mentored unless they are one step away from Juvenile Hall. Never take it out on the kids.
Thats what sports is all about,…. building character, goals, team work, pride, self discipline, responsibility, respect.

Nab71

Just to clarify: “The coaches are the professionals.” Rarely. Most are individuals, often parents, who are donating their time. Removing the kids should be the last resort. But sometimes it is necessary. I’ve been there with the disruptive parents. Over 15 years I’ve had to tell at 5 parents that the only way that their children remained on the team was if the parents did not attend. I picked their kids up so that they could play. One parent would not agree and continued to disrupt. Ultimately the child was removed., since it was the only way to remove the parent.
dan

linder on the defense

rogerrabbit

Linder,

Unfortunately these two boys are uncoachable kids. At a practice a coach was trying to “coach” the kid and show him something he did wrong and the kid skated off the ice in the middle of practice and told his mother “the twins real coach” that the coach didn’t know what he was talking about and didn’t want to practice anymore.

How about the father going on the radio station making a statement that he has all kinds of hockey teams knocking at his door for his boys to play (still not playing because no one will take them) and two says the team they left is in last place and they were in first when the boys played. Incorrect, the team was never in first and never in last. Get my drift about this family nothing but made up lies and I can’t respect any mother who hides behind her two 9 year old sons to go fight the problems at hearing that was about what she did not two 9 year old boys that she created by posting slandering and false allegations about the coach and sending emails for two weeks using words like “child abuse”, “torture” and “threats”.
Linder

Let the truth unfold. The truth always has a way of righting it self. My bigest and HUGEST object was the childish, immature, and kid like comments and others feeding off and agreeing with them. Remarks about the mom, the kids and the father.

What kind of credibility does any one have when they cant carry a decent conversation. If these are people you know, then monitor them the best way you know how and respond with their unacceptable comments and keeping the points made relevant..

Sad part is the kids, whether they are obnoxious or not, people on here could be destroying their Lives with their remarks. This is nothing more to some people as fodder and entertainment at the expense of these kids. Who are you all to sit in judgement of this family? This is close to a public hanging!

dan

THE KIDS ARE NOT OBNOXIOUS…..IT IS THE PARENTS!!! GET IT

Linder

Read again,… I never said they were. I dont do that. I dont name call. I dont make fun of people appearance. Im very concerned about the kids. You need to get it! Try a dictionary of the word WHETHER.

used for saying that it does not matter which of two possibilities is true, because the situation will be the same

used when someone can CHOOSE between two possibilities

Regardless of circumstances

means – Regardless (of whether, no matter if.)

which or whichever (of two)?

Pepsi

In reference to your comment about people feeding off comments about the Foglietta family. They are doing it not because they are simply commenting but because they are responding to the truth about what the Fogs are all about. Holly has bad track record it’s as simple as that. She went to the media with her lies and put herself and her family out there, she exposed her family to the situation that she now is in. Seems like her plans back fired. She has no credibility.
The concern about destroying the kids lives whether obnoxious or not. What about Coach Norcross ? What about his life ? Such false accusations like child abuse and torture can ruin a persons life and reputation FOREVER.

Accusations about peoples character can be very harmful . In saying that let’s not accuse we know facts let’s ask?
Why was Holly NOT invited to her husband’s brothers wedding ? ( This is a new one )
Who has seen her at the Squire ? Working or not ?
Why did her husband get fired from Lynn Fire Dept.?
Why did she use a Lynn address when she lives in Salem on her Twins hockey registration for LYH ?
Has she followed up on Ricky Maynes coaching certification to get him banned from coaching ?
Someone ask Holly how much it cost to put an addition on an average family home. Would be $40,000.00 ?? Hmmmmm….
When was the last time Holly read the parents code of conduct ?
When was the last time she had a glass of wine ?
Did Holly really get into 2 fist fights at 2 separate weddings ? ( I am only asking, not accusing )
Does she really drive a red corvette ?
Has the 200 th puck been dipped in gold and engraved ?

Again, no accusations, just curious about the moral character of the mom of the 200 th goal scorer

dan

fired from the lynn fire dept hhhmmmmm.. must of been something bad
rogerrabbit

This is all true. Great points on Holly. Also a few others about what Holly has done that are facts:

- After the LPD vs LFD Charity hockey game in Lynn guess who she punched in the face in front of a number of grown ups? Yes the husband was there and witness this myself.

- The Hospital check of 40,000 was a nice addition for coming up with lies again.

- Holly has pulled her kids out of all the North Shore hockey programs for all different reasons and this upcoming year will be the 5th program in 5 years.
Nab71

It looks like WBZ stepped into another story that is blowing up on them. Don’t worry, they’ll never follow up. They did the same thing with a Billerica family that won a court suit for police harassment. They gave the family the publicity they wanted. The court suit has since been overturned because tapes were found that the family had made that actually showed the family stalking cruisers and provoking incidents in order to complain about harassment. It was reported in the various papers, but no follow up from WBZ.

rogerrabbit

Simple I have watched this behavior for 1 1/2 years. The two boys are good kids don’t get me wrong. The parents have already told people they took the wrong approach and made a huge mistake in this entire situation. Again, so you can understand this Linder the boys are not the problem the parents are. Being uncoachable is not making these brothers bad kids, they are nice solid boys just uncoachable and this comes from the mother and father.

dan

like i said before.. A LEOPARD NEVER CHANGES IT”S SPOTS

Linder

WOW, OMG,.. , you people are incredible. You are relentless in your belittling comments. You all need to get a life and stop making this a personal vendetta with your attacks on this family in public. You dont realize when you berate the parents, you are also berating the kids. You cant separate them. Those kids will feel every nasty comment you people make on this public forum about their mom and dad.

PEPSI…Iam completely shocked with the list of personal private information that you so freely posted. Questions or not, they are read and viewed as accusations and actual facts. I read that list and it took my breathe. You are something else. Do you and others have any conscience? Do you worry about getting sued? Do you all think because you have a handle instead of your real name posted, you cant be found??? You can be found! You are in unchartered waters. Laws are being made as problems present themselves for the internet, speaking LOUDLY to PRIVACY ISSUES, HARRASSMENT ISSUES, SLANDER, FRAUD and now BULLYING. This is exactly what kids go through everyday in school and its called CYBER BULLYING. UNBELIEVABLE AND SICKING!!!

Pepsi

Why do you come back to this page if it bothers you so much??? As for slander and being sued I am not the one that needs to worry about that because this is truth and the truth is not slander. I think you should be talking to them, that family opened up this can of worms no one else. So maybe you should take a step back and think about what you are saying because you know nothing about this issue only what you read. True facts you know nothing about. As for all your other accusations talk to them because if you knew all the facts you would be responding differently. So you have a wonderful evening.
dan

it is not belittling comments IT IS CALLED THE TRUTH…LIKE JACK SAID IN THE MOVIE MAYBE YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH
dan

like pepsi said…you can’t be sued for telling the truth