Keller @ Large: Birther Issue Dividing GOP

BOSTON (CBS) — Where President Barack Obama was born continues to be an issue, and now it appears to be dividing the Republican party.

Although Mitt Romney and Michele Bachmann have said the President has proven he was born in Hawaii and the issue should go away, Donald Trump continues to argue the point.

Jon Keller takes a look at why President Obama is enjoying the bickering.

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  • Paul Cooper

    It’s not about a birth certificate.
    The Founders borrowed the term natural born citizen from the international treatise known as the Law of Nations, which appears in the U.S. Constitution under Article I and the enumerated powers of congress to enforce violations against the Law of Nations.
    To be a natural born citizen of the United States, one must be the blood offspring of a father who was at the time of birth, a legal U.S. citizen. Emerich de Vattel wrote in 1758, the following definition of natural born citizen and every member of the U.S. Supreme Court know this definition well… it’s not at all complicated.
    1) natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.
    2) those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.
    3) The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens
    4) in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.
    Forget “where’s the birth certificate”
    The proper question is – WHO’S YOUR DADDY?
    Trump is asking the wrong question, which is why Obama is not worried. If he can establish that natural born is based upon whether or not he was born a native of Hawaii, he will come up with a Hawaiian birth certificate if he has to draw it himself in crayon.
    That will only prove that he was born in Hawaii. It will not prove that he is a natural born citizen eligible for the office of President, because natural born is based on the bloodline of his father, Barack Hussein Obama I, who was never a citizen of the United States and cannot therefore, transfer U.S. natural born citizen rights to his offspring.
    Who cares where the birth certificate is?

    • StanleyRamon

      Yes, I think I see what your saying. Kind of like keeping the throne in the family so to speak, like a King or Emperor. Oh wait, but this is America, isn’t it?

    • Michael E. Harvey

      uhhh, Obama never actually knew his father


    If push comes to shove, the Supreme Court will just rule that he is a citizen. To do otherwise will mean a non-citizen has been our President for the last few years and the Supreme Court is not about to do that.

  • BostonIrish

    Yeah, you know that Stan is right on top of this. He has a link he produces that has Obama’s birth certificate.

    If this were a republican president faced with the same issue and was in office (that’s to head off the McCain haters, McCain’s not IN office) I’m pretty sure Stan and Stephen would be complaining to no end.

    • Stephen Stein

      Not me – I’d be complaining about the deniers. If a Republican president had the secretary of state of his or her birth state affirm their birth record’s authenticity, it would be plenty of evidence for me.

      • Ajay

        Wow…he has a link? Its a shame that nobody’s seen the original birth certificate, the Govenor of Hawaii says that he can’t find it and yet this link has it. Problem solved.

  • JohnC

    Let me see if I have this right. Paul, you are saying that the father has to be a citizen of the USA? So if the mother is a citizen (of the USA) and the father is not; the child is not a citizen? I doubt this. Barack Obama’s mother was a citizen of the United States at the time of the future president’s birth. It would not matter if the chief executive was born on one of Jupiter’s moons. He is still a citizen of the USA. I cannot resist mentioning that the Democrats tried the same birthplace nonsense in 1964 when Barry Goldwater ran for president. Barry was born in the Arizona Terratory before it became a state in 1912. It was a ridiculous argument then, as it is now.

  • Denise

    At this point in time – WHO CARES! you will have your choice during the next election to vote to keep him in or get him out! It’s not like if they prove or disprove this – it will make one p-hole in the snow of a difference.

    • BostonIrish

      I agree, Denise. It’s moot now. He’s in his 3rd year. Pointless. I just want him out after his 4th year, not his 8th.

  • StanleyRamon

    I believe Jon Keller’s point is that it should be moot. The fact that preposterous candidates such as Donald Trump keep bringing it up will ruin the chances of a serious Republican candidate, like Mitt Romney, in the next election. If Republicans could somehow focus on meaningful issues they might actually convince a few Independents that they could make a difference. The serious GOP pols are trying to, and rightly should, take something from the Scott Brown playbook, but it’s got to be tough with the likes of Trump and Palin and their like constantly injecting foolishness into the mix.

    • Jon Keller

      Stanley….I’m not taking a position, just pointing out that GOP leaders clearly want to change the subject, and its not hard to see why.

  • graywolf

    The reason our country is facing what may well be insurmountable problems that will eventually lead to the ruin of one more super power is exactly this. Obama is president. We have a crisis facing us on more fronts than any president has had to deal with. And yet we focus on a birth certificate. Good luck to us because we clearly need it.

    • Willow


      • Ajay

        I wouldn’t say that the ‘focus’ is on the birth certificate. But it is one of the issues. If he has one, then simply put an end to all of this and show it.

        I don’t argee that its a moot (or mooo, as Joey would say) point. If it later comes out that he is not eligible to be president, there will be some serious legal issues facing this country. It also shows something about his character. What is there to hind? He not only hinds is birth ceertificate, but all of his school records as well. It leaves me with an uneasy feeling about him and his staff.



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